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You should show this to Sam:

https://cybercultural.com/p/internet-1995/

and this:

https://www.gwsmedia.com/articles/how-internet-system-requirements-have-changed

The point is, we're no longer in a growth market. The present market is more like a race to the bottom, where there is no first mover advantage anymore, in fact it can be a significant disadvantage as we see with AI chips.

I'm probably not the best example of market demand, but I'm not that far off. I haven't bought a new computer in over 10 years, my cell phone is a 3G Galaxy 5, which is practically an antique, but it does everything I need it to do. My provider keeps warning me that they're about to abandon 3G. Ha! They've been saying that for years. When it actually happens I'll get a new phone, but not until. Oh, and they were going to install optical for free last year. I told them forget it. I don't need the speed. The hookup is on the pole, I'll let the next owner of this house worry about it.

Not to belabour the point but my Korg MI which I bought in 1982 still works fine, although now I only use it for MIDI because the free open-source synthesizer I use is better than any current dedicated hardware (eat that Roland!). Same goes for my Bryston amp and Advent Legacy monitors which I bought around the same time. If it ain't broke, don't replace it! Yeah, maybe the tech has improved somewhat since then, but you'll never hear the difference in MP3-360. Even FLAC won't get you there unless you're willing to spend at least 10 grand on a sound system, and most people who'd do that are into vinyl anyway!

Most people don't think of 1929 as a tech bubble, but it surely was. Look at the hot stocks back then: automobiles, radio, phonographs, washing machines, refrigerators, electric lighting, toasters, curling irons. It was all new stuff that few people had and everybody wanted. The similarity to 1995 is striking.

Speaking of cars, here’s a compressed history of the automobile. Notice how many players fall by the wayside, and how everything rolls off towards the end.

https://americanbusinesshistory.org/a-century-of-automobile-industry-history-in-charts/

When I first got interested in cars in the late 60s it was all about speed and styling. They looked great and went fast, which was what everyone wanted. Chick magnets. Today there hasn’t been a significant improvement in automotive engineering for over 20 years. It’s all ‘form factor’ now - all bells and whistles in a desperate attempt to sell you something that’s no better than the last 3 or 4 cars you owned. Self-driving? Give me a break. That only appeals to fleet operators. The people who spend serious money on a car want something they can actually drive. EVs may have a future - that remains to be seen, but the point is, you’re still dealing with market saturation, as with everything else. All the seats are occupied.

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I’m a country bumpkin… I do not understand how a population without wisdom and extra disposable income will be able to use or afford AI “knowledge” for anything meaning or productive and then in 20 years when there is total population collapse have this be meaningful or profitable for the people selling it. Won’t a huge part of the population need FOOD?!? Meaning: No Food on Shelves = Lowering the demand for creating AI cat videos and meaningless inquisitive searches on chatbots for hallowed (not) epistemological musings? Not to mention the ENERGY required on behalf of both the producer AND consumer to CREATE or USE AI? How does everything keep going UP?!??? From someone who is seeing everything go to $h!+ in real-time?!???

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