Just waiting now for them to claim that once Epstein was jailed the Russians had to delete him because he might have revealed secrets…….and they did it with Ecuadorian Dart Frog Poison!
The only thing I might add is that, bad as the gaslighting about Epstein is, it's just the tip of the iceberg. It's merely a recent example of the practice that's now entrenched in western governments, and by extension their media mouthpieces.
Misinformation, misdirection and misapprehension are the lingua franca of western governments. They know what's best for you to know, whether it's the truth or not. They also know that the lies are all for a noble purpose: to maintain the public's trust in a corrupt system.
It's a dark world out there. Far, far darker than most realize. It's not the commonly-known bad things that make it dark. It's the corruption in the things that are supposed to be good that make it so.
I don't believe reforming the system is possible. It has no righteous core to return to. I only hope I can continue to live honorably while it destroys itself.
Absolutely, Epstein was one agent in a web of satanic depravity. Read up on Kincora. MI5 covered up a ring that trafficked little Irish boys out of a children's home straight to the British royalty. Even "lord" Mountbatten, cousin of queen Elisabeth.
Read deeper into Gacy as well. It was a whole trafficking and snuff-producing operation. The media and the procurators twisted it into a simple serial killer story.
North Fox island, Michigan. A "summer camp" for poor children, ran by an old-money millionare. Donated to by the obscenely wealthy. They hid behind "philanthropy" while raping children.
We've got no clue. No clue about what's going on out there. It's hell. For every trafficking ring revealed there's gotta be dozens or hundreds never found.
Sir, Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia. To suggest otherwise makes us question your intelligence and your intentions. /sarcasm off ...
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On the entire pedo/bmail agenda, while serious AF, I'm equally concerned that our society is being coerced, by soft and not so soft pressure and power, to accept and normalize that the inception, growth and "evolution" of OnlyFans (and similar human debasement) is organic and a natural result of evolution and feminism. I have daughters now raising my grandkids and it is a minefield for them, especially the indoctrination machines they face (Social Media, "Education" Systems and peer pressure sanctioned by adults that are only "adults" in their ages).
I understand what you're talking about. I have a daughter myself and I forbid TikTok and any form of social media (whatsapp is ok for communication). She knows why, and she's sometimes annoyed, but the older she becomes, the more she realizes why I say so. It's not easy. But necessary.
Across two marriages, I was forced twice, to upset my three children when their mothers stocked and then re-stocked our homes with Disney toxins and they became needless landfill fodder. Many fathers are only genuinely respected by their adult children, say when they are not 18, not 21, but 25+ years old.
Occam's razor took some time off for a while. But I knew No1 was being sardonic.
Yeah, I haven't read much of the Epstein material out there. A little goes a long way. 45++ y/o men having sex w/15 y/o females is bad enough. But 12? Late Roman Empire indeed.
This Russia, Russia, Russia hysteria is why I get triggered when ppl blame Russia for the war vs. NATO lackey Ukraine.
If Russia/ China/ whoever tried to do that to the US, I could see the (tactical?) nuke card played sooner than later.
Haven’t heard too many take the Russia angle. That being said I don’t listen to the MSM (no TV). I know it was they who tried to float this little trial balloon.
Lots of talk over the last year about who controls who vs US, UK, IS. It’s really a moot point because the same people run them all (entire West). We are ruled by ZioBankers as most of the WASPs are gone. And if there’s one thing those files confirmed it is that we are ZOG.
When I saw all those coordinated headlines appear, trying to tie Epstein to Putin, my immediate reaction was "Do they honestly think we are THAT stupid?"
What IS amazing is that they didn't seem to try too hard to hide the Israel connection from anyone who really wanted to see it.
Yes, it's coming out in dribs & drabs, highly redacted, of course, to protect the perpetrators. And many of these creatures hold positions of influence, wealth, prestige & power. Essentially, they rule our World. Let that sink in.
It's beyond evil; as others have said, it's full-on satanic. The absolute, unspeakable horror of what these demons in human form have done is beyond the comprehension of virtually all of us who, with all our faults, are not evil.
But I believe that 'Hoping that it shocks enough people to stop asking more questions.' is incorrect. It's more subtle than that.
I think their cover-up/mitigation is in emergency mode. Of the multitude of incriminating photos, emails etc etc, available, they're drip feeding us a little at a time, enough to shock but not enough reach for the pitch-forks & rope. Then another inflation headline, a war or threat of war.. let the anger subside, the memory soften, then drip-feed a little more...rinse & repeat 'till it's just a bad dream.
With states not investigating in good faith, how do you intend to distinguish between the guilty and the innocent that happens to get cited by association, but did nothing?
It's clear that some sexual predators among the powerful have been protected, but it's also pretty certain that sending an e-mail or event seein Epstein once does not mean the person is a pedo.
Plus given the influence of all the persons involved, tampering of evidence, be it for erasing proofs or implementing false proofs, is very probable.
It sucks but it seems pretty certain to me that we won't ever get the truth of this affair.
You're right. Damn. I don't want you to be because it's soo much easier. But yeah. Honestly? What we need is someone as Putin who gets 3 decades to clear this shit up. He took basically what was a failed state, and made everyone fall in line. Little by little. I don't know if it would be good for society as we would need to trust the judgement of 1 person... Never a great idea.
But you're right. Same like JFK or 911 or <insert your favourite conspiracy>, we will never know who really did it.
What nonsense. Epstein is irrelevant. Why isn’t anyone investigating rape gangs in uk and all the other things going on the world which are infinitely worse. Powers to be just use him to hide everything else. A real sleaze who hired underage girls . But far from the serual rapists and a users who are overlooked.
I do agree with you that those rape gangs should be punished (castration comes to mind). But to say that Epstein is irrelevant is overlooking its significance. I don't exactly understand what game is being played here, but it's a bit strange. Lots of figures in power are implicated. But I don't immediately see anything that they want to hide, so why the sudden openness? That makes my spider sense all tingly... Something else is going on.
But irrelevant? Nope. Not at all... As important as your other example?
I think the general level of incompetence of Trump's team (Bondi, Kash etc. and Trump himself) has provided an opening that Khanna/Massie were able to push on and open which has led to the recent disclosures. I think Glen Greenwald has made the point that if you had a smart Attorney General (eg Nixon's John Mitchell) he would have issued a few indictments against mid level people and used this to hush up further disclosure so as to not 'compromise ongoing investigations'.
With respect to Alexis' 'Epstein is irrelevant', both Epstein and UK are important, and from a big picture perspective they are the same thing. The important thing to take away was that it wasn't incompetence at work that allowed the Rapists in UK and Epstein to get an easy deal in Florida, it was the willful intention of the people in charge. I think what the Epstein disclosures are showing us is the enormity of the problem facing us (the fact that we have little to no control over those who rule us). I've been reading https://aurelien2022.substack.com/ for a while, which outlines the dysfunction of EU/UK political system. I have no idea how EU/UK will sort themselves out since they seem to be so fucked economically/politically, but US has some built in resilience which we are rapidly burning through, I very much doubt that Newsom in 2028 is the answer (I had higher hopes for JD, but given the past year's disaster, not sure whether he will have a shot (or deserves one)).
I would not be so quick to dismiss the Trump team. We are quite seriously headed for what might be the Mother Of All Trials (MOAT - a MASSIVE RICO trial, with literally rows and rows of high profile defendants. Remember, that a guy named Rudi Giuliani was, and arguably still is, the undisputed master of RICO use. And Rudi has a bunch of very good reasons to help (behind the scenes) the Trump administration prepare for the MOAT. He has not been treated nicely by these folks, and I cannot imagine he is just going to whimper and take it. Don't think so. Grand Jury investigations are secret investigations. And at national level, when they stick you with a gag order, you damn well better keep your mouth shut. Do recall, the left pulled that stuff on Trump. I don't think he'll forget that. And in this game of thrones, turn about is totally fair play. So, just because you are not seeing a lot of MSM press about possible RICO and national level Grand Jury investigations, I would not be so quick to dismiss Trump's hand picked team. They are not interested in just getting a few men on base. They want a stadium gone crazy over a series of home runs. Over, and over, and over, and over. Preparing for that kind of a ball game takes time. And you won't win if you don't keep mouths shut. Which, IMO, the Trump administration is far better at than any administration we've seen in the DC area for a long, long, long time. We are barely one year in to a four year game. You ain't seen nothing yet, baby.
If I was the president, I would pull a King Philip IV/Pope Clement V style wipe out of all and any political figure connected to Epstein. Planned in secret and executed on Friday the 13th. Destroy the entire WEF connect political class in one big swoop.
It is almost as if, the Devil Went Down To Georgia, looking for souls to steal, got tired of working from the shadows and decided to terrorize the entire population by announcing intentions openly and challenging anyone, actually, to wield genuine justice and incarcerate any perpetrator. Perhaps the entire human race is infected by some diabolical mind virus or demonic psychic entanglement.
How can it be as important? So many girls in the world are kidnapped. forcibly raped. in so many countries. Epstein may be a total sleaze but no girls were forcibly kidnapped or raped. He basically recruited, uunderage girls for money . Disgusting but a far cry from the other crimes. It’s like saying put the kids on street corners who sell small amount of drugs in jail well the big dealers are usually off scot free
You clearly haven't peeked down the whole pizza/jerky rabbit hole. Easy to dismiss because it is so horrible. A normal person doesn't want to believe it may be true.
I only touched lightly on it. And stepped away. I have a too much evolved moral compass to be able to sleep at night knowing those things happened and nothing will be done about it. (same like the manipulations where only a few figureheads went to prison for... The rot is everywhere)
The story here is about the creepy Epstein saga, NOT the crap happening in the streets of Not so Great Britain. Don't try to deflect and take us down a rabbit hole that is irrelevant here.
Try the cults masquerading as religions. Marrying children, having multiple wives. Nothing to see here.
The level of injustice right under your nose probably right next door in an abusive marriage. The extent is deep but no injustice needs to be held better or worse. They are all sad, sick and deprived of moral decency.
The hard part is accepting the personality type that is capable of committing these crimes lives with us.
As a society we have no idea how to handle them, how to identify them. We lie to ourselves we can tell when someone is grifting us- but we don’t actually know.
They have no conscience - that is how they can commit these crimes. They are not like us, and we have failed to teach our kids how to identify one.
“Oh he’s such a nice guy”
That is my biggest red flag- the rest of society believes it.
"Epstein may be a total sleaze but no girls were forcibly kidnapped or raped."
Excuse me? And you know this how? Are you really suggesting that children have agency in this dark world and operate on the same plane as adults? The main take away from the Epstein stench is that The Zionists have some video/film/photos showing Trump doing unspeakable (and illegal) things to children. When Bibi says "jump", the poodle Trump says "how high?" In Bibi's presence, Donald demonstrates that he is, conspicuously and in the most unctuous way, Bibi's butt-boy(a catamite). Maybe clean your moral compass before posting such nonsense.
The mainstream media has no credibility. The only thing they have left is pandering to their shrinking base until they're all out of business. The Washington Post was one of the first to go belly up. Other rags will be next to bite the dust.
The only things I have continued to ask myself is why the populous has not yet stormed the palaces of the elites, dragged them out and executed them. It really baffles me.
Just waiting now for them to claim that once Epstein was jailed the Russians had to delete him because he might have revealed secrets…….and they did it with Ecuadorian Dart Frog Poison!
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You're 100% correct, No1.
The only thing I might add is that, bad as the gaslighting about Epstein is, it's just the tip of the iceberg. It's merely a recent example of the practice that's now entrenched in western governments, and by extension their media mouthpieces.
Misinformation, misdirection and misapprehension are the lingua franca of western governments. They know what's best for you to know, whether it's the truth or not. They also know that the lies are all for a noble purpose: to maintain the public's trust in a corrupt system.
It's a dark world out there. Far, far darker than most realize. It's not the commonly-known bad things that make it dark. It's the corruption in the things that are supposed to be good that make it so.
I don't believe reforming the system is possible. It has no righteous core to return to. I only hope I can continue to live honorably while it destroys itself.
💯
Absolutely, Epstein was one agent in a web of satanic depravity. Read up on Kincora. MI5 covered up a ring that trafficked little Irish boys out of a children's home straight to the British royalty. Even "lord" Mountbatten, cousin of queen Elisabeth.
Read deeper into Gacy as well. It was a whole trafficking and snuff-producing operation. The media and the procurators twisted it into a simple serial killer story.
North Fox island, Michigan. A "summer camp" for poor children, ran by an old-money millionare. Donated to by the obscenely wealthy. They hid behind "philanthropy" while raping children.
We've got no clue. No clue about what's going on out there. It's hell. For every trafficking ring revealed there's gotta be dozens or hundreds never found.
Heard that conspiracy theory on the French MSM recently. I was with my parents and they said "not impossible". And they're intelligent people.
As the Burmese Days author said:
> The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Sir, Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia. To suggest otherwise makes us question your intelligence and your intentions. /sarcasm off ...
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On the entire pedo/bmail agenda, while serious AF, I'm equally concerned that our society is being coerced, by soft and not so soft pressure and power, to accept and normalize that the inception, growth and "evolution" of OnlyFans (and similar human debasement) is organic and a natural result of evolution and feminism. I have daughters now raising my grandkids and it is a minefield for them, especially the indoctrination machines they face (Social Media, "Education" Systems and peer pressure sanctioned by adults that are only "adults" in their ages).
I understand what you're talking about. I have a daughter myself and I forbid TikTok and any form of social media (whatsapp is ok for communication). She knows why, and she's sometimes annoyed, but the older she becomes, the more she realizes why I say so. It's not easy. But necessary.
Across two marriages, I was forced twice, to upset my three children when their mothers stocked and then re-stocked our homes with Disney toxins and they became needless landfill fodder. Many fathers are only genuinely respected by their adult children, say when they are not 18, not 21, but 25+ years old.
I think the investigation should continue to clarify who participated in all that and what they did. It should not stop
Occam's razor took some time off for a while. But I knew No1 was being sardonic.
Yeah, I haven't read much of the Epstein material out there. A little goes a long way. 45++ y/o men having sex w/15 y/o females is bad enough. But 12? Late Roman Empire indeed.
This Russia, Russia, Russia hysteria is why I get triggered when ppl blame Russia for the war vs. NATO lackey Ukraine.
If Russia/ China/ whoever tried to do that to the US, I could see the (tactical?) nuke card played sooner than later.
They were even younger. There's actual pre-pubescent children in those files sitting on his lap...
All anyone can do is SMH.
What's as bad - if not worse - is it appears most (all?*) will get away scot-free.
* There will likely be a few sacrificial lambs.
Haven’t heard too many take the Russia angle. That being said I don’t listen to the MSM (no TV). I know it was they who tried to float this little trial balloon.
Lots of talk over the last year about who controls who vs US, UK, IS. It’s really a moot point because the same people run them all (entire West). We are ruled by ZioBankers as most of the WASPs are gone. And if there’s one thing those files confirmed it is that we are ZOG.
When I saw all those coordinated headlines appear, trying to tie Epstein to Putin, my immediate reaction was "Do they honestly think we are THAT stupid?"
What IS amazing is that they didn't seem to try too hard to hide the Israel connection from anyone who really wanted to see it.
What came out is only what was allowed to come out. Hoping that it shocks enough people to stop asking more questions.
Yes, it's coming out in dribs & drabs, highly redacted, of course, to protect the perpetrators. And many of these creatures hold positions of influence, wealth, prestige & power. Essentially, they rule our World. Let that sink in.
It's beyond evil; as others have said, it's full-on satanic. The absolute, unspeakable horror of what these demons in human form have done is beyond the comprehension of virtually all of us who, with all our faults, are not evil.
But I believe that 'Hoping that it shocks enough people to stop asking more questions.' is incorrect. It's more subtle than that.
I think their cover-up/mitigation is in emergency mode. Of the multitude of incriminating photos, emails etc etc, available, they're drip feeding us a little at a time, enough to shock but not enough reach for the pitch-forks & rope. Then another inflation headline, a war or threat of war.. let the anger subside, the memory soften, then drip-feed a little more...rinse & repeat 'till it's just a bad dream.
Will we fall for it?
Probably.
Brilliant "essay"! (think maybe you're too deep for some folks!)
Well, this wasn't really "deep". Basically a rant against the MSM. And yeah, I was trolling a "little". Love it 😉. Really couldn't take that serious!
I think that anyone, for his own sanity, needs to avoid dugging too deep in Epstein affair.
When you've got fleas you need to do more than just scratch.
Take a frickin' flamethrower and burn it all away?
With states not investigating in good faith, how do you intend to distinguish between the guilty and the innocent that happens to get cited by association, but did nothing?
It's clear that some sexual predators among the powerful have been protected, but it's also pretty certain that sending an e-mail or event seein Epstein once does not mean the person is a pedo.
Plus given the influence of all the persons involved, tampering of evidence, be it for erasing proofs or implementing false proofs, is very probable.
It sucks but it seems pretty certain to me that we won't ever get the truth of this affair.
You're right. Damn. I don't want you to be because it's soo much easier. But yeah. Honestly? What we need is someone as Putin who gets 3 decades to clear this shit up. He took basically what was a failed state, and made everyone fall in line. Little by little. I don't know if it would be good for society as we would need to trust the judgement of 1 person... Never a great idea.
But you're right. Same like JFK or 911 or <insert your favourite conspiracy>, we will never know who really did it.
Yeah i don't trust in the providential man theory (or small group of men for that matter).
Even if one does exist, what happens when he die, or lose power?
You're left with a state with no real counter powers in the hands of a fool, or worse.
What nonsense. Epstein is irrelevant. Why isn’t anyone investigating rape gangs in uk and all the other things going on the world which are infinitely worse. Powers to be just use him to hide everything else. A real sleaze who hired underage girls . But far from the serual rapists and a users who are overlooked.
I do agree with you that those rape gangs should be punished (castration comes to mind). But to say that Epstein is irrelevant is overlooking its significance. I don't exactly understand what game is being played here, but it's a bit strange. Lots of figures in power are implicated. But I don't immediately see anything that they want to hide, so why the sudden openness? That makes my spider sense all tingly... Something else is going on.
But irrelevant? Nope. Not at all... As important as your other example?
Absolutely.
I think the general level of incompetence of Trump's team (Bondi, Kash etc. and Trump himself) has provided an opening that Khanna/Massie were able to push on and open which has led to the recent disclosures. I think Glen Greenwald has made the point that if you had a smart Attorney General (eg Nixon's John Mitchell) he would have issued a few indictments against mid level people and used this to hush up further disclosure so as to not 'compromise ongoing investigations'.
With respect to Alexis' 'Epstein is irrelevant', both Epstein and UK are important, and from a big picture perspective they are the same thing. The important thing to take away was that it wasn't incompetence at work that allowed the Rapists in UK and Epstein to get an easy deal in Florida, it was the willful intention of the people in charge. I think what the Epstein disclosures are showing us is the enormity of the problem facing us (the fact that we have little to no control over those who rule us). I've been reading https://aurelien2022.substack.com/ for a while, which outlines the dysfunction of EU/UK political system. I have no idea how EU/UK will sort themselves out since they seem to be so fucked economically/politically, but US has some built in resilience which we are rapidly burning through, I very much doubt that Newsom in 2028 is the answer (I had higher hopes for JD, but given the past year's disaster, not sure whether he will have a shot (or deserves one)).
I would not be so quick to dismiss the Trump team. We are quite seriously headed for what might be the Mother Of All Trials (MOAT - a MASSIVE RICO trial, with literally rows and rows of high profile defendants. Remember, that a guy named Rudi Giuliani was, and arguably still is, the undisputed master of RICO use. And Rudi has a bunch of very good reasons to help (behind the scenes) the Trump administration prepare for the MOAT. He has not been treated nicely by these folks, and I cannot imagine he is just going to whimper and take it. Don't think so. Grand Jury investigations are secret investigations. And at national level, when they stick you with a gag order, you damn well better keep your mouth shut. Do recall, the left pulled that stuff on Trump. I don't think he'll forget that. And in this game of thrones, turn about is totally fair play. So, just because you are not seeing a lot of MSM press about possible RICO and national level Grand Jury investigations, I would not be so quick to dismiss Trump's hand picked team. They are not interested in just getting a few men on base. They want a stadium gone crazy over a series of home runs. Over, and over, and over, and over. Preparing for that kind of a ball game takes time. And you won't win if you don't keep mouths shut. Which, IMO, the Trump administration is far better at than any administration we've seen in the DC area for a long, long, long time. We are barely one year in to a four year game. You ain't seen nothing yet, baby.
If I was the president, I would pull a King Philip IV/Pope Clement V style wipe out of all and any political figure connected to Epstein. Planned in secret and executed on Friday the 13th. Destroy the entire WEF connect political class in one big swoop.
How difficult can it be...
It is almost as if, the Devil Went Down To Georgia, looking for souls to steal, got tired of working from the shadows and decided to terrorize the entire population by announcing intentions openly and challenging anyone, actually, to wield genuine justice and incarcerate any perpetrator. Perhaps the entire human race is infected by some diabolical mind virus or demonic psychic entanglement.
How can it be as important? So many girls in the world are kidnapped. forcibly raped. in so many countries. Epstein may be a total sleaze but no girls were forcibly kidnapped or raped. He basically recruited, uunderage girls for money . Disgusting but a far cry from the other crimes. It’s like saying put the kids on street corners who sell small amount of drugs in jail well the big dealers are usually off scot free
You clearly haven't peeked down the whole pizza/jerky rabbit hole. Easy to dismiss because it is so horrible. A normal person doesn't want to believe it may be true.
I only touched lightly on it. And stepped away. I have a too much evolved moral compass to be able to sleep at night knowing those things happened and nothing will be done about it. (same like the manipulations where only a few figureheads went to prison for... The rot is everywhere)
So give me an example of something that was as terrible as rape gangs?
The story here is about the creepy Epstein saga, NOT the crap happening in the streets of Not so Great Britain. Don't try to deflect and take us down a rabbit hole that is irrelevant here.
Actually this was a rant against the MSM and the PTB whom I can't believe think we're THIS dumbed down?
What is happening ALL over the western world is cringe-worthy.
I'm afraid the only way the west will survive is by burning the whole apparatus down. It's rotten beyond repair... Media included.
Try the cults masquerading as religions. Marrying children, having multiple wives. Nothing to see here.
The level of injustice right under your nose probably right next door in an abusive marriage. The extent is deep but no injustice needs to be held better or worse. They are all sad, sick and deprived of moral decency.
The hard part is accepting the personality type that is capable of committing these crimes lives with us.
As a society we have no idea how to handle them, how to identify them. We lie to ourselves we can tell when someone is grifting us- but we don’t actually know.
They have no conscience - that is how they can commit these crimes. They are not like us, and we have failed to teach our kids how to identify one.
“Oh he’s such a nice guy”
That is my biggest red flag- the rest of society believes it.
I'm not here to do that. But I do suggest you do your own research with an open mind.
"Epstein may be a total sleaze but no girls were forcibly kidnapped or raped."
Excuse me? And you know this how? Are you really suggesting that children have agency in this dark world and operate on the same plane as adults? The main take away from the Epstein stench is that The Zionists have some video/film/photos showing Trump doing unspeakable (and illegal) things to children. When Bibi says "jump", the poodle Trump says "how high?" In Bibi's presence, Donald demonstrates that he is, conspicuously and in the most unctuous way, Bibi's butt-boy(a catamite). Maybe clean your moral compass before posting such nonsense.
Epstein is a great excuse for example for uk politicians to focus on the UK ambassador but not on rape gangs
THE UPSIDE is DJT is not involved. Just look at the S&P!
Nononono! The DOW is at 50,000!!
Noticing is antiseptic #based
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MgZt3qq9IdY&list=PLD4Acl4MFwCauRU4ix0Rdyn3sP7o1iFsm&index=2&pp=iAQB
"R U S S I A" = "R U Stupid Son Israel (über) Alles"
The mainstream media has no credibility. The only thing they have left is pandering to their shrinking base until they're all out of business. The Washington Post was one of the first to go belly up. Other rags will be next to bite the dust.
The only things I have continued to ask myself is why the populous has not yet stormed the palaces of the elites, dragged them out and executed them. It really baffles me.
Can't be fast enough! That people go to search for their news instead of getting it spoon-fed to them by 1 or 2 megacorporations...